If things don’t change. Try the letro
[quote]BUDs wrote:
If things don’t change. Try the letro[/quote]
Thanks. Ive also been avoiding caffeine as I’ve heard it can play a role in gyno. It sucks though because I usually drink a lot of coffee. Maybe that explains the lethargy. Do you think it’d be safe to start drinking caffeine again considering im now on the AI snd serm or do you think it’s a bad idea?
I don’t think it would be a problem I don’t know
[quote]BUDs wrote:
If things don’t change. Try the letro[/quote]
I’ve decided to abort the cycle. I wish I had done it sooner. One areola is now visably larger than the other.my chest looks fucked. I am waiting for an order of letro. I have some arimadex I was thinkingnof using until the letro comes. Does anyone know if I can run aromasin, nolva and arimadex at the same time? I know nolva makes arimadex less effective but could it help at least until the letro arrives? I was Thinking of adding 1mg of arimidex everyday.
Seems to me your AI and serms are fake.
Could try upping the Nolva to 60mg for a few days.
I would switch to arimidex see if that changes
Can I useadaex and aromasin. Together?
Beacause arimadex takes 2 weeks to start working right?
You seem to be a weak reactor to the Anti E’s as well as the AIs… Be sure you have some liver support in place, As it is the liver that manufactures OUT the estrogen from your bloodstream… You may be processing out to slowly…
Best of luck…
[quote]ztanzanite wrote:
You seem to be a weak reactor to the Anti E’s as well as the AIs… Be sure you have some liver support in place, As it is the liver that manufactures OUT the estrogen from your bloodstream… You may be processing out to slowly…
Best of luck…[/quote]
Im starting to think it must be prolactin gyno because of the enlarged areola. Going to ask for a referral to an endo.
@drdanger84 You would know more than me what your nipples are supposed to look like, but it doesn’t look that bad to me. Maybe only slightly worse than mine. The only thing I see is the nipple itself looks a little swollen. Mine also did, but not as big. Perhaps it is too perky like mine was and is rubbing up against your shirt?
It only looks bad in the closeup but the other picture looks normal. Maybe these other guys can chip in about how it looks.
You said you had developed “breast tissue”. Do you mean white bumps around the nipple? The things I was noticing on my post, I actually realized that I had some of these bumps naturally, but never paid much attention to them until I started this cycle.
Have you been stable with your Armidex and your Nolva? I think one of my problems was that I dropped my Nolva too quickly after starting Armidex. I am now starting my 5th week and things seem to be back to normal now. I’m glad I got rid of the constant erectness in my nipples though. That might be what you have.
Anyway, I hope you get this worked out. In my case, I am continuing with the cycle as I think I was just freaking out a little. Maybe a little freak out is good every now and then to get us back on track.
[quote]Heavylifter27 wrote:
@drdanger84 You would know more than me what your nipples are supposed to look like, but it doesn’t look that bad to me. Maybe only slightly worse than mine. The only thing I see is the nipple itself looks a little swollen. Mine also did, but not as big. Perhaps it is too perky like mine was and is rubbing up against your shirt?
It only looks bad in the closeup but the other picture looks normal. Maybe these other guys can chip in about how it looks.
You said you had developed “breast tissue”. Do you mean white bumps around the nipple? The things I was noticing on my post, I actually realized that I had some of these bumps naturally, but never paid much attention to them until I started this cycle.
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Have you been stable with your Armidex and your Nolva? I think one of my problems was that I dropped my Nolva too quickly after starting Armidex. I am now starting my 5th week and things seem to be back to normal now. I’m glad I got rid of the constant erectness in my nipples though. That might be what you have.
Anyway, I hope you get this worked out. In my case, I am continuing with the cycle as I think I was just freaking out a little. Maybe a little freak out is good every now and then to get us back on track.[/quote]
I mean actual breast tissue growing below my nipples. My areolas have begun to get larger in diameter and are very itchy but less erect than the pics. Maybe I should post another pic to show what I mean.
There are 3 types of gyno…
Glanular/ fatty/ and fiberous breast tissue growth…
Glanular comes from high E2… Fatty can come post cycle if unbalaned with Estrogen domanence and tissue growth Can come from Progesterone and estrogen imbalances… most doctors wont aknowledge gyno if you dont have enlarged glands under your nipple…
Estrogen is the root in all of them… Get E2 in check asap…
Best
Hmmm… I guess it’s always better to err on the side of caution. Are you taking letrozole now? Keep us up to date with how everything goes. If it really is gyno, I hope you’re able to get rid of it.
[quote]ztanzanite wrote:
There are 3 types of gyno…
Glanular/ fatty/ and fiberous breast tissue growth…
Glanular comes from high E2… Fatty can come post cycle if unbalaned with Estrogen domanence and tissue growth Can come from Progesterone and estrogen imbalances… most doctors wont aknowledge gyno if you dont have enlarged glands under your nipple…
Estrogen is the root in all of them… Get E2 in check asap…
Best[/quote]
Ok so I took 1mg of arimidex on Saturday night. The next day I felt a lot of improvement. Nips now look pretty much how they are supposed to and my mood and energy level is now so much better. Since the adex seems to be doing the trick I have decided to attempt to finish the cycle. I’m going to continue on 25mg aromasin everyday and wondering what adex dose to use. Ii am thinking .25 e2d or .5 e3d not sure. Any suggestions? I also want to know if I would be ok to drop the nolva without tapering down or if I need to stay on it? Thanks for the advice! I also have started taking milk thistle but not sure if that would have changed anything. Thanks
If taking too much ai won’t you fuck up yur dick? .25 anastrozol or armidex eod seems to be the norm weather on 250 or 500mg of test… I see a lot of these gyno threads from dudes that don’t b&c… maybe it would be a good idea to consider doing a month of light T & .25 ai eod…just to get yur body ready then do the large T doses
[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
If taking too much ai won’t you fuck up yur dick? .25 anastrozol or armidex eod seems to be the norm weather on 250 or 500mg of test… I see a lot of these gyno threads from dudes that don’t b&c… maybe it would be a good idea to consider doing a month of light T & .25 ai eod…just to get yur body ready then do the large T doses[/quote]
B&C?
Blasting & cruising…
@drdanger84 I’m glad to hear you seem to have worked out the issue. The large dose of Armidex (0.5mg EOD) is also what I did in the beginning, when I freaked out about gyno, although it knocked me out. I only did it once and then went to 0.25 EOD as recommended. I haven’t had a problem since.
So I’m curious if your symptoms went completely away or if there has been a small change that has been permanent. My symptoms were only the hard nipples and the rest I think I might have been imagining. Now that I don’t have that issue, I haven’t noticed anything different. If I were you, and it seems like you are probably already doing this by now, I would to stick to the 0.25 EOD and things should be fine.
[quote]Heavylifter27 wrote:
@drdanger84 I’m glad to hear you seem to have worked out the issue. The large dose of Armidex (0.5mg EOD) is also what I did in the beginning, when I freaked out about gyno, although it knocked me out. I only did it once and then went to 0.25 EOD as recommended. I haven’t had a problem since.
So I’m curious if your symptoms went completely away or if there has been a small change that has been permanent. My symptoms were only the hard nipples and the rest I think I might have been imagining. Now that I don’t have that issue, I haven’t noticed anything different. If I were you, and it seems like you are probably already doing this by now, I would to stick to the 0.25 EOD and things should be fine.[/quote]
The problem hasn’t completely gone away. But the nipple sensitivity and hardness has been a lot less noticeable. I think I may not have caught it early enough to reverse it. My nips definitely look weird compared to before my cycle. The day after each injection the gyno seems to flare up and I notice it more. Im on 20mg nolva daily, 25mg aromasin daily and 1mg arimadex eod but thinking I should drop it to .5mg eod. I gave the cycle a good chance but I just dont want to risk even worse gyno so I decided that I’ll just cut my losses.
My last shot was monday so in about a week and a half I’ll start my nolva/ clomid pct and probably stil run the aromasin and adex just to be sure. After that im going to do a month of liquid letro at 2.5mg. The cycle has been a complete fuck up. I’ve gained about 7kg but was happier with my body before hand. My work has been extremely busy, im talking over 70 hrs a week so finding time to sleep/eat/train has been a real issue. Anyway I’m glad your cycle is going well. Naybe I will try again on the future if I get this gyno under control. Good luck