Ordered the HCG will throw that in instead…
I presume you dont have anything against that… not THAT hard a compound.
Any other tips welcome :)[/quote]
Some folks like to throw HCG in a cycle to prevent the sprouts from shriveling up too bad. To be perfectly honest with ya, I’m not that big of a fan. I believe it was Prisoner (in his original taper thread) and many researchers have proven that running HCG is not all that great a practice. Yes, your boys don’t shrink up as much, but do you want to trade that for a longer and more difficult recovery?
Just told me buddy who is doing the cycle that im dropping Eq.
Nearly freaked
But i just said your body do what you want ill do it meh way…well your way
Save it for another cycle. I’ve found EQ to be most effective on a long cycle (12-16wks) and run for the first 12 of those. You don’t need that at this point in time. Save it and you’ll thank yourself later when prices go up thanks to the Olympics…
Well it is ordered…
As for using it, ye know ALOT more than me and cant seem to agree !
I’ll be starting this wednesday i say, HCG is not due till Week 4, so in the meantime could ye have an old discussion as to whether its benificial or not.
Im not in ANY way qualified, i understand what it does, but ye have DONE cycles i presume with it in it, whare are its benifits/drawbacks.
So back here again and ready to go.
You couldnt believe how hard it was to get syringes/needles in Ireland.
Cripes
All im waiting on now is arimadex to arrive give or take a day or two and im off.
Decided against hcg or anything else just keep it test-terific
I don’t know if this will help to ease your mind, but I’m recently on hrt (that for the first 8 weeks was at 400mg per wk) and I can tell you for sure that if this is the first time you are introducing an anabolic substance into your body that the testosterone all by itself will give you very dramatic results. You will look in the mirror in 4-5 weeks and be shocked. You don’t need that second EQ substance.
These guys are giving you good advice. I am also on HCG 250iu EOD, and it has kept the gonads big and improved my mood. When I started on it (at about 4 weeks) I was a little bit ‘moody’ and low energy. I felt much more relaxed, comfortable, and energetic once I started on it. These guys may be able to help you out better than me about HCG though- because you are looking for all out bodybuilding gains, and I am on hrt for libito and energy/health reasons. So there may be other reasons why these guys are saying to avoid the HCG.
As far as the testosterone goes though, I’m sure you’ll do well with it alone.
Hey World, im still open for opinions and HELL NO if i looked like Jake id close and mouth and not open it till i lost some fat.
And ya i dropped EVERYTHING that isnt test
Sides arim and nolva that is
So ya World let me hear it ?
Well to be honest the 8 week looks ALOT more appealing, than the elongated version.
I think i might run with this, i presume its
Monday:400mg
Thursday:400mg
For 8 weeks
How does the taper come out then please follow the 4-5 week one thats quoted above… or have you altered it ?
On the shorter cycles the only thing I would change is the stasis length, but keep it 3-4 weeks at the shortest.
Hell, I’d bet you could drop it down to 2 weeks if you feel like using nolva during the taper.
A lot of folks advise against nolva during the stasis. Like I said, use it only if you have gyno, and then it is optional whether or not to use it during your taper.
So basically, if gyno is absent, then you won’t need nolva at all.
The stasis for your cycle would be 4 week of 100mg followed by a 5 week taper down to 2 weeks of 20mg.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
On the shorter cycles the only thing I would change is the stasis length, but keep it 3-4 weeks at the shortest.
Hell, I’d bet you could drop it down to 2 weeks if you feel like using nolva during the taper.
A lot of folks advise against nolva during the stasis. Like I said, use it only if you have gyno, and then it is optional whether or not to use it during your taper.
So basically, if gyno is absent, then you won’t need nolva at all.
The stasis for your cycle would be 4 week of 100mg followed by a 5 week taper down to 2 weeks of 20mg.
World[/quote]
Ok so its 4 weeks on, 4 weeks stasis then 5 weeks taper ??
Use adex if necessary while on, nolva during stasis only if you have gyno, and nolva during taper if you have gyno or if you want a bit of an extra jump.
I agree with the amount of knowledge you seem to have (more than the average joe curl) i think you would benefit more from the high dose short cycle outfit too.
