[quote]Professor X wrote:
ScrambyEggs wrote:
Suuuhhwhheat! Beating the bike was amazing. I’ve never heard of anything pulling that off. Reminds me of a giant go-kart though.
Rigged.[/quote]
The bike in the video is only a 600, and the atom was the 300hp version. 300hp at only 1000lbs is going to be VERY fast. Not to mention the suspension on the Ariel is set up to handle amazing, so it’s faster in a straight line, and around a corner, and all for $50,000!
[quote]Neebone wrote:
TONEdef wrote:
duece wrote:
Seriously, I want one of these, absolutely insane.
I loved Clarkson’s face when he drove the Atom. His cheeks were flapping around his ears while he grinned and laughed like a insane gimp. Amazing car.
You should be able to find a clip for the episode where the Stig crashes a Koeneggzzegg (or however you spell it)[/quote]
It’s spelt Koenegzegegxegwmjegzfehsa.
Can be a bit tricky so don’t worry about it. 
Anyway, some cool clips here…
[quote][DeVo] wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ScrambyEggs wrote:
Suuuhhwhheat! Beating the bike was amazing. I’ve never heard of anything pulling that off. Reminds me of a giant go-kart though.
Rigged.
The bike in the video is only a 600, and the atom was the 300hp version. 300hp at only 1000lbs is going to be VERY fast. Not to mention the suspension on the Ariel is set up to handle amazing, so it’s faster in a straight line, and around a corner, and all for $50,000![/quote]
My 600 beats pretty much any car on London roads. Ok so there are a few of the extremely high performance cars around, but mostly boy racers in their Civics, Golfs, BMWs etc. For only a few grand (used) I can have more performance than your average Porsche 911 - every morning on the way to work.
Screwing around in the Atom would be fun as hell though!
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/16629
R1 vs Porsche vs Jet Fighter
the bugatti veyron has the same 0 - 60 time as valentino rossi’s yamaha M1 moto gp bike. im pretty sure it could handle the gixxer
[quote]toughcasey wrote:
the bugatti veyron has the same 0 - 60 time as valentino rossi’s yamaha M1 moto gp bike. im pretty sure it could handle the gixxer[/quote]
Cars have better “initial” acceleration which is why you get a better 0-60. 0-100 between the Veyron and Gixxer was .1 difference. I’m sure rossi’s gp would wax the Veyron in 0-100.
everyone knows or should know that a well handling car out handles a supersport motorcycle.
if you are gonna compare race motorcycles do so against race cars. Nothing can touch an F1 car. The amount of downforce they generate is incredible, you could drive those things upside down if you were going fast enough.
don’t compare the utility of an automobile to that of a motorcycle. The mototcycle has none and i’d like to see someone survive a motorcycle accident at speeds greater then 60mph/100kph. I think i went high on those numbers cause you know you’re getting messed up even at 40mph.
laters pk
[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
Where did you come up with this? Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by “well handling”.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
pkradgreek wrote:
Where did you come up with this? Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by “well handling”.[/quote]
I’m a bike guy. I ride a cbr1100XX. I ride it hard and nasty. I scape my pegs on turns and get upto 180mph on straights. All good fun.
That being said, a good car will easily outhandle a bike in turns. I’ve seen videos of a R1 going head to head with a 911 AWD on a track. Both driven by professional drivers. While the R1 had the edge in straight line accelaration, On tight turns, the rider had his hands full and the Porsche actually got a better lap time by a few seconds. The handling of a bike in a turn is actually quite weak, No matter how impressive it may look to have a bike lean on it’s side in a tight turn, it will bo slower then a good car like a 911 TT. It may be hard to swallow for a bike guy at first but it’s a fact.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pkradgreek wrote:
Where did you come up with this? Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by “well handling”.
I’m a bike guy. I ride a cbr1100XX. I ride it hard and nasty. I scape my pegs on turns and get upto 180mph on straights. All good fun.
That being said, a good car will easily outhandle a bike in turns. I’ve seen videos of a R1 going head to head with a 911 AWD on a track. Both driven by professional drivers. While the R1 had the edge in straight line accelaration, On tight turns, the rider had his hands full and the Porsche actually got a better lap time by a few seconds. The handling of a bike in a turn is actually quite weak, No matter how impressive it may look to have a bike lean on it’s side in a tight turn, it will bo slower then a good car like a 911 TT. It may be hard to swallow for a bike guy at first but it’s a fact.
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I’m not just trying to diss cars even though I like my bike. However, I have ridden an R1 and the 2006 CBR1000 beats it as far as how it handles in turns. I personally have never been on a bike that turns the way this one does. On a tight u-turn, the R6 had me heading into the outside lane. With the CBR, I can hit the inside lane with ease. All that said, I would like to see a rerun of some of these tests against the newer versions of these bikes.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pkradgreek wrote:
Where did you come up with this? Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by “well handling”.
I’m a bike guy. I ride a cbr1100XX. I ride it hard and nasty. I scape my pegs on turns and get upto 180mph on straights. All good fun.
That being said, a good car will easily outhandle a bike in turns. I’ve seen videos of a R1 going head to head with a 911 AWD on a track. Both driven by professional drivers. While the R1 had the edge in straight line accelaration, On tight turns, the rider had his hands full and the Porsche actually got a better lap time by a few seconds. The handling of a bike in a turn is actually quite weak, No matter how impressive it may look to have a bike lean on it’s side in a tight turn, it will bo slower then a good car like a 911 TT. It may be hard to swallow for a bike guy at first but it’s a fact.
I’m not just trying to diss cars even though I like my bike. However, I have ridden an R1 and the 2006 CBR1000 beats it as far as how it handles in turns. I personally have never been on a bike that turns the way this one does. On a tight u-turn, the R6 had me heading into the outside lane. With the CBR, I can hit the inside lane with ease. All that said, I would like to see a rerun of some of these tests against the newer versions of these bikes.[/quote]
Yup, definitely depends on the bike. Personally I dont like the R1. Even my bros ZX6R handles like a tank compared to my CBR600.
That said, cars are cool - I’m just a 2-wheels kinda guy.
don’t top fuel cars go 0-300 in 3 seconds. screw all the rest of that stuff i wanna drive one of them…on the highway
[quote]budlight1 wrote:
don’t top fuel cars go 0-300 in 3 seconds. screw all the rest of that stuff i wanna drive one of them…on the highway[/quote]
Yeah true, and NOS + Turbo bikes are in the 4-6 second range I believe, if not faster.
Yeah, but the real question is who would want the veyron over the atom, anyway? I see veyrons all over the place, with the atom, you’d have the ‘whoa, what is that?’ factor.
The guy on the 600 wasn’t even fast around the corners its like he was afraid to lean the bike over and why the hell are the using a 600?
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Yeah, but the real question is who would want the veyron over the atom, anyway? I see veyrons all over the place, with the atom, you’d have the ‘whoa, what is that?’ factor.[/quote]
Just give me my 2006 Porsche 911 Turbo and I would be happy. Wonder if they have 50 year financing yet?
The biggest advantage a car has over a motorcycle is the contact patch. That’s where the rubber meets the road. Compared to a bike, a car has acres and acres of contact patch. Even a crappy econo car can generate over .8 lateral Gs. A sports car can get close to or exceed 1 G depending on setup. A race car… well, it depends on how much downforce it can generate.
A modern sportbike, with proper setup, and race slicks can now hit right at 1 G. That is a rare occasion and takes a talented rider under the right conditions.
A bike’s biggest advantage is its light weight. It allows it to accelerate harder.
If you really want to put it to the test, just look up the lap times for motorcycles and cars at the same racetrack. You might be surprised by which has the fastest lap times.
I’ve roadraced motorcycles and I’ve roadraced cars… a real racecar will put the smackdown on damned near any bike. They brake later, harder, generate more cornering force, and make faster laps. Plus, it is far easier for a driver to extract the potential out of a car than it is for a rider to do the same with a bike.
Bikes also tend to run out of breath before cars do. Eddie Bello used to race bikes in mile-long runs, and he won most of the time. In a quarter mile, a car will usually get smoked. Even the supercars. On a track, it’s quite a different story. As was mentioned, the contact patch makes all the difference.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I’m not just trying to diss cars even though I like my bike. However, I have ridden an R1 and the 2006 CBR1000 beats it as far as how it handles in turns. I personally have never been on a bike that turns the way this one does. On a tight u-turn, the R6 had me heading into the outside lane. With the CBR, I can hit the inside lane with ease. All that said, I would like to see a rerun of some of these tests against the newer versions of these bikes.[/quote]
I feel you dog. I love both cars and bikes. Both plenty of fun. I’ve ridden the R6 and that thing would snap into turns like no other bike i rode before that. So for the cbr to be that good, it’s indeed very impresive. I remeber reading that it had something to do with the honda engineers concentrating on the rear swing arm and calculating it’s flex in turns etc…
One of the problems with bikes is that’s much harder to push them to their limit for the rider vs. the car driver.
Peace.